Wow that hurts to have your families boycott your wedding.
How long did you put off baptism? I mean how old are you now? If you're not really young they should have known something was up.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Wow that hurts to have your families boycott your wedding.
How long did you put off baptism? I mean how old are you now? If you're not really young they should have known something was up.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Welcome mikeypants!
Couple questions: how devout is your wife? Family? Take this into consideration as you make your exit.
Theres a chance your wife, even if she's really liberal will turn on baby-protection mode and try to forcefully raise the kid a JW. It could drive a wedge between you.
The first thing you need to do is find out exactly where she's at. Even a very liberal or inactive dub can turn on a dime. We've all been brainwashed from birth. Cults are dangerous creatures.
Anyway, explore the board a bit, feel free to comment. I'll bet you'll find lots of issues with the JWs that you never even knew about.
this is probably all old news to most but i found it interesting.
i was trying to find the website that has all the boes and in my yahoo search these showed up and i checked them out.
there are probably better lines than the ones i picked out but if interested check them out.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/202012206#h=0:0-3:583 "a trustee or executor should be aware that whether the estate is large or small, liberties should not be taken with the assets.
How about saving a few years' worth of cat litter and willing that to them? It's more than they deserve
"of course,a close relationship will not last if one person does all the talking.
(in this case it is me talking to god)just as friends enjoy two-way communication,(right on)we should allow god to speak to us(yes i have allowed him to speak but he says nothing)and we should listen to him when he does.
(iam still waiting for him to say something).
It's up to you how long you'll wait for him to reply. Personally I'd like to think he has better things to do, like making sure millions of children die of malnutrition every day when he supposed had the power to feed everyone.
How long will you wait?
i dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.
i'm literally on the sound system list every week.
i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.
Bro... Take a step back and consider your plans. You joined the board a couple months ago, which means you are FULLY awale by now. If you're getting more "priveledges" now, you're doing something wrong.
Time to cut those serve-us hours to the single digits this month, less than 5 for the next 3, the last two of which are a complete lie as you never went out at all. Servo is the first thing the eldurrs look at when doling out "privileges". Make yourself an unlikely candidate.
After these next 4 months of low reporting, time to not put in a report at all. Put in one that says zero, and dont bother after that. When asked why , make shit up. Never.. EVER apologize it make excuses. What you are doing is what you are doing, and it is not wrong. Don't give the impression that you can be convinced that you are in the wrong. They are child molester protecting liars, not you. You just know their secrets.
Pretty soon their attention will shift to someone else and you will be ignored. After 3 months of zero hours you will get a shep visit. They will lay out the usual FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt) routine on you, which you will give them nothing. Just cold. Thanks them for their time and interest. it will piss them off to no end that you didn't show any fear of them or remorse for having let big J down.
Before you know it, you'll be skipping more than you go.
Tand a moment and think about WHO you go to the meetings for. Family? Move. Friends? Get new ones. Real ones.
nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.
the debate.
for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.
Your ad hoc excuses/explanations do not impress.
Keep at this, though. Eventually you will realize how far you have to bend and how much you have to ignore to be the type of believer you want to be.
nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.
the debate.
for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.
Chris Tann, the only "believer in god" who responded, is an idiot. Check out his other thread, seriously. Cofty's description is accurate.
CrazyGuy used to be like you on here actually. I'll admit his threads frustrated the hell out of myself a some others here on the board for a while.
He came to a more accurate view in his own time, just as you might.
You need to understand, though that what you are attempting to do here is a waste of time. The bible is not scientifically accurate just because some believers can cherry pick a verse and shape it's "meaning" to fit modern science. This involves a huge amount of ignorance and is actually quite dishonest.
I'm not a scientologist, far from it but if one or two parts of Dianetics can be interpreted as scientifically accurate, does that make the entirety of Dianetics scientifically accurate and true? No. It's the same with the bible. So much is contradictory to facts, that there's really no point in trying to prove it as scientifically accurate.
there are a lot of jws who will never hear about the molestation issues the wt has because all their friends on social media are fellow cult members.. what i'm going to attempt is to create a profile for an alter ego.
it will have a profile pic and banner that says "jw.org" or some other pro-jw nonsense.. then i will attempt to befriend a jw.
when one bites and accepts me the others will fall like dominoes and also accept my friendship.. at first i will post pro-jw things that will get me "likes", subscribers, and promotions in their news feed.. then i will lower the boom by posting the recent news video from the texas molestation story.
Girl next door:
please tell me more! Half a dozen have woken up because of you?!
i was head over heels for this girl, but when i realized i was in a self destructive cult i realized tieing the knot with her would screw up my future.
this makes me think of the highschool sweethearts i turned down that were worldly.
now she gives me dirty looks whenever our eyes meet a the hall or at gatherings.
Well said Pete. She'll tell others that you played her or hurt her.
You're better off
and they left the congregations, would you then feel open to be thier friends?.
many on here have the same complaint, that in the jw congregations, there were clickes, no one had time for each other,.
people judged, there was a lack of association, freindship , true concern and love were lacking.
Dozens learn TTATT every day!
If many in my area woke up and actually did something about it and I actually wanted to be their friends, sure. It would be SO much easier to do together! Plus it would shake up the local congs causing more to leave. Some will see it as a sign there's a problem, most will see it as "cleansing gods congregation"